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Fireclaw
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Posted 19 December 2014 - 07:51 PM

"Much better" You're joking, right? First off, 8GB of ram... That already makes this computer worthless to me for anything other than gaming and surfing the web. Second, there is no reason for a $200~ motherboard in a budget build. Third, that price doesn't include the GPU. Adding a 780 would add an additional $4-500 dollars to this, making the computer $1500. Fourth, seagate drives are crap. Lastly, that build you linked me doesn't include a Pro Art Monitor (or any monitor), keyboard, mouse, or mousepad. 

 

tl;dr: that build you linked me is worthless

lel, didn't realize that the 780ti wasn't included in the cost, my bad.

That being said, the expense of the mobo is justified by the hackintosh compatibility. RAM can be upgraded easily and pointing it out as a flaw of a build is silly. ANNNND the 780ti actually benches better than the 980 (plus the 900 series gpu's aren't hackintosh compatible yet).

 

Again, sorry about the price, I incorrectly assumed that the 780ti was included in that $1000 cost and thus excused it's lack of peripherals which are personal preference anyway.


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Posted 19 December 2014 - 08:56 PM

ANNNND the 780ti actually benches better than the 980

 

 

What? No it isn't. The GTX 980 is currently the most single-GPU right now. The 780 ti is somewhere between the GTX 970 and 980 in terms of raw performance. However, the new 900 series have power consumptions that are ridiculously low that even the GTX 970 can be overclocked to a point it's equal to/surpasses the 780 ti in performance. And the GTX 970 is cheaper than the 780 ti, too.

 

I think you may have seen benchmark comparisons between the two cards when graphic drivers weren't quite furbished for the GTX 980, or you're talking about benchmarks that are not gaming-related.


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Posted 20 December 2014 - 11:35 AM

What? No it isn't. The GTX 980 is currently the most single-GPU right now. The 780 ti is somewhere between the GTX 970 and 980 in terms of raw performance. However, the new 900 series have power consumptions that are ridiculously low that even the GTX 970 can be overclocked to a point it's equal to/surpasses the 780 ti in performance. And the GTX 970 is cheaper than the 780 ti, too.

 

I think you may have seen benchmark comparisons between the two cards when graphic drivers weren't quite furbished for the GTX 980, or you're talking about benchmarks that are not gaming-related.

http://youtu.be/t2QpCtsL5L0?t=8m38s

 

That's the benchmark video I am referring to. In those benchmarks, the 780ti and 980 are neck and neck (I believe they are also both overclocked).


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Posted 20 December 2014 - 10:24 PM

http://youtu.be/t2QpCtsL5L0?t=8m38s

 

That's the benchmark video I am referring to. In those benchmarks, the 780ti and 980 are neck and neck (I believe they are also both overclocked).

 

Not really. Perhaps it is true for the average FPS numbers,but BF4's minimum FPS is improved from 40-42  to 50-54 on the GTX 980 which is definitely an important factor. It'd give a more smooth gameplay experience from the consistency of the FPS. Also, they're using a reference model GTX 980s, which is quite inferior to other coolers like the TWIN FROZR V, which has a much higher turbo boost. Yes, the GTX 980 is overclocked in this benchmark, but it can be even higher on a non-reference model like the TWIN FROZR V I mentioned earlier. There's obviously other factors which makes the GTX 980 better as well which was mentioned in the video; 3G Delta colour compression, MFAA, DSR - the much more efficient power consumption is also a very key selling factor of the new GTX 9## series as well. Considering a lot of the 780 ti's have similar pricings to the GTX 980, I would much rather prefer to go with the GTX 980 option.

 

tl;dr: GTX 980 > GTX 780 ti


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Posted 20 December 2014 - 10:34 PM

Your guys's conversation scares me...


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Posted 21 December 2014 - 10:16 AM

Your guys's conversation scares me...

 

Haha, it's actually quite straight-forward when you know the terminologies. I was pretty much just babbling about the differences in performance & features between two different video cards. It's just the cryptic words & abbreviations that make it sound so technical.


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Posted 21 December 2014 - 10:52 AM

Haha, it's actually quite straight-forward when you know the terminologies. I was pretty much just babbling about the differences in performance & features between two different video cards. It's just the cryptic words & abbreviations that make it sound so technical.

But I do learn something from you guys so please continue.  :th_084_:



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Posted 21 December 2014 - 01:34 PM

Not really. Perhaps it is true for the average FPS numbers,but BF4's minimum FPS is improved from 40-42  to 50-54 on the GTX 980 which is definitely an important factor. It'd give a more smooth gameplay experience from the consistency of the FPS. Also, they're using a reference model GTX 980s, which is quite inferior to other coolers like the TWIN FROZR V, which has a much higher turbo boost. Yes, the GTX 980 is overclocked in this benchmark, but it can be even higher on a non-reference model like the TWIN FROZR V I mentioned earlier. There's obviously other factors which makes the GTX 980 better as well which was mentioned in the video; 3G Delta colour compression, MFAA, DSR - the much more efficient power consumption is also a very key selling factor of the new GTX 9## series as well. Considering a lot of the 780 ti's have similar pricings to the GTX 980, I would much rather prefer to go with the GTX 980 option.

 

tl;dr: GTX 980 > GTX 780 ti

Fair enough. The only argument I've got left is that you can sometimes find 780ti's on sale for much lower than 980's (since the're older) and at that point the price/performance ratio can't be beat.


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Posted 21 December 2014 - 10:42 PM

Fair enough. The only argument I've got left is that you can sometimes find 780ti's on sale for much lower than 980's (since the're older) and at that point the price/performance ratio can't be beat.

 

Yes, I can agree with you on that. The GTX 980 is a great card, but it's price:performance ratio is pretty horrible at the moment, especially compared to the GTX 970. I was only arguing against your other comment which implied the 780 ti was better than the 980 in performance.


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Posted 05 January 2015 - 05:27 PM

damn, hate how you up'd my build. Running an 8320 and a 270x :( (still amazing doe) 


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